Monday, October 6, 2008

The End Of Pax Americana?

Latin America, long regarded as America’s backyard, has recently hoisted the flag of defiance to its northern neighbor. In recent weeks, America’s ambassadors have been expelled by Venezuela and Bolivia, a move that Brazil has supported. Brazil has also objected to the presence of American warships in the region, warning that his nation would put its own warships on alert in response. Argentina’s President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchener said recently with obvious satisfaction that the First World, which had been “painted as a place we should strive to reach, was popping like a bubble.” “The times when one economy and one country dominated are gone for good,” Russia’s President Dmitry Medvedev declared recently at a joint Russian-German seminar in St. Petersburg. After the American banking debacle, he said, the world does not want America as a “megaregulator.” A few weeks earlier, Russia had taught America’s protégé President Saakashvili of Georgia a painful lesson when he attempted to retake South Ossetia by force. The United States could do nothing to stop the robust assertion of the Russian version of the Monroe doctrine in the Caucasus.

It may be recalled that the British Empire folded up partly on account of the staggering financial expenditures that it incurred during two world wars. The US financial crisis has erupted with destructive force because for many years America has been living beyond its means. The stalemated wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have no doubt contributed to the US deficit. Instead of raising taxes and restraining expenditures, the Bush administration has been practicing trickle-down economics.

True, the United States is militarily stronger today than it ever was in its 230 years of existence. Its armed forces have overwhelming nuclear and conventional firepower and reach that is unmatched. At the click of a mouse individuals sitting in their offices in Washington, DC can and do destroy targets 10,000 miles away in Iraq, Afghanistan or the tribal areas of Pakistan.

Yet these weapons of war are just as useless in averting financial disaster as the Russian weapons were in preventing Russia’s economic meltdown.

Are these warning signs that Pax Americana is coming to an end? Is the financial crisis the cause of the decline of American power, or is it imperial overreach? Joschka Fischer, a former German foreign minister, recently summed it up brilliantly in Die Zeit:

Due to Guantanamo and torture, America has lost her moral credibility; Thanks to the Iraq War, Iran has achieved regional supremacy in the Middle East; American military power has become overstretched due to a wrong and unnecessary war; Bush inherited a balanced budget from Clinton and has since acquired a huge mountain of debt; China is now America’s largest creditor; the dollar’s role as the dominant global reserve currency is seriously endangered; the American financial system is threatened with collapse; and the only answer to this crisis, an existential threat to the entire global economy, is nationalization by Washington’s Republican government!”

To conclude, the ongoing financial crisis which has led to the loss of hundreds of billions of dollars in the values of shares and which threatens the life savings of many millions of Americans could inflict lasting damage on the American economy. It could also lead to devastation consequences for the global economy. Its causes are unmistakably clear: imperial overreach and financial indiscipline.

The US must somehow extricate the country from the unnecessary war in Iraq, and accord priority to promoting a just and lasting settlement in the Middle East. Bringing peace and stability to Afghanistan and supporting Pakistan in its efforts to combat terrorism are also extremely important. Lastly, the US has to balance its books by reverting to the old American values of financial discipline, investment in knowledge, and hard work instead of a get-rich quick approach that had become the norm on Wall Street in recent years. Failing that, the recently approved $700 billion plus bailout package will only provide a temporary respite and not a lasting solution to America’s financial woes.
Wikipedia

Pax Americana (Latin: "American Peace") describes a period of relative peace in the Western world since the end of World War II in 1945, coinciding with the dominant military and economic position of the United States. The term was modelled on the Pax Romana of the Roman empire.
During this period, no armed conflict has emerged among major Western nations themselves, and no nuclear weapons have been used, although the United States and its allies have been involved in various regional wars (such as the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Falklands War, the Gulf War, the Yugoslav wars, the Afghanistan War and the Iraq War) and have maintained espionage and covert operations in various other areas.
Pax Americana may be similar to the period of peace in Rome, Pax Romana. In both situations, the period of peace is 'relative peace'. During both Pax Romana and Pax Americana wars continued to occur, but it was, and is, still a prosperous time for both Western and Roman civilization. It is important to note that during these periods, and most other times of peace, the peace that is referred to does not mean that it was complete peace. By peace, it only means that they prospered in their military, agriculture, trade, and manufacturing.

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

Over the past several months, the condition of the United States economy has been a concern on the minds of many. Maybe its just basic economics, like things that goes up must come down. Although it can be unfortunate sometimes, economic growth requires a period of balance. Thus, without period of recession, a country could never have periods of progression. Now, i wonder when we in the Philippines can get out of the doldrum of recession...
I won't touch on the politics of war, but iam always oppose to violence and destruction. Everyone is suffering, all nations involved are affected. Some are much worse off than the other. America ceated this tragedy unto itself.
As usual, brilliantly written boysie..

Anonymous said...

You are right on the money about our economy my friend (no pun intended). The US government has DESTROYED, (either directly or indirectly) our economy.

Too many of our government officials have no clue what it is to be an "average joe" american. They're out of touch with the real world and economy that 90% of the country deals with. About 10% of this country's citizens have most of the money in this country and many of them are our politicians.

How can you ever have a balanced economy? It will never happen as long as the same wealthy citizens, as well as monster corporations shove millions of dollars in politician's pockets to pass or veto laws to make them more money?

The 80s PROVED the trickle-down theory is a lame excuse to make the rich richer. Why does the government think that we don't see what's really going on? The US has been in a recession since the 80s and they've lied about it all along. Now we're pushing a depression.

All the fuzzy math in the world can hide the reality that the loss of all these jobs since the late 80s has put most of us one step away from living in a cardboard box. This country's economy is being flushed right down the toilet and we're all in for a long, bumpy ride "down the tubes" as they say here.

I often wonder... Does the rest of the world hear the giant "WHOOOOOOOOSH" sound the US economy is making as more and more of it ends up in the septic tank?

AS far as I'm concerned, the US government, all the corporations, and the CEOs of said corporations, can kiss my hairy a**.

Nuff said.

Anonymous said...

That's the irony @Ray, though CEOs & business people are getting the moolas, but have you noticed that one of McCain's economic proposals is to give tax breaks to those wealthy individuals. What a plan.

A total contrast to Obama-Biden's proposal. These 2 are proposing additional tax to CEOs & business people & tax breaks to working individuals, which I think is the right thing the government should do. After all, the working class & the middle class is the backbone of the nation's economy.

Anonymous said...

Where do I begin.... I only know what i think I know... and I'm sure thats alot less than I SHOULD know.... The recent bailout is further proof that the powers that be in America care nothing about its people and do what is best for wallstreet and corporate America. USA Today reported that over 80 percent polled approved its bailout, where independant polls showed that virtuall ALL people polled did NOT approve. Thats either lying or manipulation of the polling populus. This coupled with the failure to regulate these companies, the intent to balloon the stock and financial reports of these companies, and thus report success in helping the poor with mortages that nthey could NOT pay, only helped the rich shareholders reap huge rewards in dividends from overinflated stocks. The money comes from somewhere and those stuck with worthless retirement investments wonder where it went. This is a pattern that is happening over and over, and nothing is being done about it other than scare tactics aimed at the people saying the economy will get worse if we DONT bail them out... Noone wants it, and it STILL happens. We pay for it and we are STILL poor and working hard. Politicians promise change and its nothing but lies come term. IMHO its just thieves that are protected because they are Harvard and Yale educated but nonetheless, thieves!!! (laughing all the way to the bank) The news reports that its what the next person wants, but when you ask real people, NOONE wants it!!!! Its lies and propaganda and nothing but petty thieves... This is NOT want normal Americans want and i seriously doubt its true democracy....

Anonymous said...

ed cox (edgeneer), is a friend from new york. an upset american who prefer to just continue working to pay his bill. he said he wont participate in the coming election as he said its but phony and all crap.

Anonymous said...

Don't even get me started on the useless, outrageous farce the US government calls "the electoral college". It should be called the "electoral slight of hand which uses voter's ballots to play charades and fuzzy math to elect the predetermed government official college".

The citizens actually get all excited, go out and vote, then watch the election results like a government "super bowl" game. When it's all said and done, I truely believe, as with many other americans, that a group of people got together and picked out the candidates who they feel will look like "all that and a bag o chips" to the media and citizens.

US citizen's ballots are most likely tossed into the circular file after they are counted just to have an idea of the total nubmer submitted. I doubt very much if the actual choices on the ballots are ever looked at or taken into consideration.

As I said above, there will never be change in this country as long as the same government mentality, officials and same "business as usual" legislaton remain the same, again and again. The entire US government needs new blood. Not just a few younger people. But, american citizens who come from the REAL america that 90 percent of us lives in.

The "little people" that actually keep this entire country, it's infrastructure, banks, and even the government's offices running should be elected. Those of use who actually work for a living, as well as those of us who !!!WISH!!! we were working.

If everybody who was just a working stiff stayed home for just one day, the government would have nothing to govern, and nobody to shuffle their papers, clean their offices and restrooms, or even serve them coffee when they get to "work".

Then the government would see who the REAL americans are in this country. And just maybe they'd finally pull their collective heads out of their a**es. It may take something that drastic to ever get the government to actually do something that benifits america instead of just themselves and big business.

But, I'm sure that it will never happen. I just hope that the poverty level never reaches such a majority of the US population that they get hopping mad and rise up against the government the same way the british settlers did when they sailed here to get away from the king.

Because, this time, there won't be anyplace left to sail to and create a new government of the people and for the people.

Anonymous said...

the euphoria of american dreams..has it ended? The Bush administration had inherited a budget surplus from the Clinton's era but due to the ignorance and arrogance of his doctrines by engaging the country into unnecessary war, he brought down the once richest nation into financial turmoil and collapsed.The crisis has been building up for years and now it's moving rapidly that the Government could no longer keep it up nor hide it. Its like a domino that it spread globally. Stock market kept on plummeting around the world and the credit crisis is heading towards recession and most economic pundits have predicted the worse.. a depression. Bush $700 billion bails out is so skeptical that the populace presumed would only help the big financial institution and its shareholders, or will it work fast to unfreeze the credit crisis or a mere pattern towards socialism and the end of capitalism itself.
As for the southern neighbours, the shifting of administration and the changes of international policies will eventually smoothens the estranged relationship towards USA, that, if the new administration will take its lessons from the past and learns from it. Not only on the south did Bush doctrines had created tension but on the northern neighbour as well(Canada). His administration will be gone soon, whether there is economic changes, that's remains to be seen but surely the road to recovery is long and slower.

Anonymous said...

Boysie.. you hit the pot..this in indeed a very controversial topic that most discussed everywhere and stir emotions to every levels globally. Congrats!! Well done once again. i can foretell where you are heading to if you keep it up. I'm so proud of you. Your mind is getting better and fierier. Double thumbs up!!

Anonymous said...

America ( rather USA) had lost its credibility long before the Guantamano Bay. It did not do anything to prevent the Rwandan mass genocide that kill millions. USA known to be of putting their hands if there are economic , political and social benefits in return, most of all..OIL.. As a World superpower, it has moral obligations to prevent the genocide but unfortunately Rwanda has nothing to offer but an endless poverty. Lying about the waepon of mass destruction to give reason of attacking Iraq was a big blow against USA around the world and it sparked hatred especially in Europian community and the starting point of sour relationship between Canada and US.It alienate the nation from the rest of the world.

I onced read a qoute from one philosopher stating that America's era of world supremacy is over. It can no longer cope up the economic, political and intellectual level in modern financial capitalism and it no longer monopolized the modernity of civilization.

I remember reading an article way back in mid 1990's written by a political analyst and author predicting America on the 21st century. It says that it will no longer hold its superpower status and countries like China, Russia, India and the European Unions will rise in time to achieve the superpower status. Considering today's political and economic condition and world opinions, had given that author no reasonable doubt and virtual reality. There are also debates by scholars and analysts about this superpower title that will tend to cease considering that so many nations are becoming independent and the world is becoming multipolar.
USA once shared supremacy with USSR and British. USSR fell and dissolved, British Empire became commonwealth that left USA on top enjoying the title by itself after the cold war. But nothing is steadfast, America too will fall in its course.

(Boysie, this article of yours is so interesting that i don't feel like stopping but have to sleep now.. 2 a.m. here).

Anonymous said...

ray, ed, if your country's economic crisis leave you feeling poor, check out www.globalrichlist.com. its not a list of the world's wealthiest people but rather a way of telling you how you fit in the global distribution of wealth. so, you enter your annual income and (almost certainly if you have a computer and are online) it will tell you that you're in the top xx% of humanity by wealth.
indeed, americans attribute their standard of living to hard work and discipline and other virtues, but the real reason you're reading this right now rather than scavenging in a dump here in manila, is that you had the good sense to be born in a rich family, by global standards. despite the ongoing crisis, you still enjoy the life most people in iraq, pakistan, africa,and otherr war-torn country can only dreamed about.
we may won the lottery, but thats chance and not virtue.

Anonymous said...

pax americana..too good to be true but it is surreal.america's international policies oftentimes fails due to its biased diplomacies. a big example is palestinian and israel conflicts. it's black and white. there is no such thing as peace..there will never be, but just greed and hungry of power.

Anonymous said...

odette, sorry but pakistan is not considered a war-torn country, they have present political unrest, true..maybe you mean afghanistan...which became the world's biggest haven of opium after the so-called US recues from Taliban. The poorest country among the poor is destroyed in pursuit of one person which until now is still enjoying his freedom under the protection from..( i won't mention the hush hush).

Anonymous said...

As far as the US rushing in to rescue every single nation in trouble, I do have to defend our government on that issue. We CAN NOT afford to, nor should we be, the world's police department.

I'll give you a very good example. The reason why Bush's old man didn't send our military into Bagdad after we flushed Sadam's army out of Kuwait is EXACTALLY the reason why Bush Jr shouldn't have in 2003. Old man Bush knew that, even though it would've started out as a politcal war and would've been VERY easy to get Sadam out of power and give Iraqis back their country, it would've ended up a religious/civil war. Just as it did now.

The entire world, including a big chunk of the US population, has now witnessed what happens when you try to fund a war that will never end. You go broke. And, the rest of the world is now feeling the ripples being caused by the US economy becoming a whirlpool because it's being sucked down the drain.

The US can not continue to jump in and save every group of people or every government, either with military power or monitary support, unilaterally. There HAS to be a plan which includes as many countries as we can possibly get to assist. The US can't keep rushing in and fighting off every bully or pay for every disaster when we can't even afford to handle our own.

The government's inability to coordinate emergency aid to our own people without looking like Keystone cops and idiots is because they really couldn't give a damn. It's not Washington official's homes or families who ended up homeless or dead because our own Army Corp of Engineers lied about holding back flood waters when conditions like Katrina occur.

And it's not Washington officials who will be out of jobs because everything in those areas will be literally flattened to the ground or gutted and have to be rebuilt. Many of the homes that survived the floods had to be condemed and torn down anyway because of mold.

And I'm sure all of america and much of the world saw what happens when these types of disasters occure. People from the ghetto started looting every thing that was left behind and wasn't bolted down. It happens every time.

So, I ask you...what makes you think the US is capable of, or can afford to be the world's police or bail out every natural disaster that occurs around the world all by ourselves? The answer is simple. We can't. As nice as that would be...we simply can't.

Anonymous said...

yes, and thanks for correcting me, amna. US congress had passed resolutions pouring in million of dollars to afghanistan to arm them against the forces of the germans. (well i saw the movie w/c stars tom hanks and julia roberts w/c cronicles the life of a certain congressman)the movie also depict how america just like to blow things up, but not build things up. they have been developing their military muscles, but left countries in shambles after they are done with it.

Anonymous said...

no, the US can't do the world policing by itself that's why UN and NATO were created. I strongly believe that before going out to someone else backyard you have to clean your own first. When i mentioned Rwanda i donot mean that US will go to war but it can use it's superpower influence for diplomatic solutions. Before Iraq war, the UN was a puppet it literally does as what the superpower wants them to be. I am against war, I donot want US or any nation goes to war. Bombing Afghanistan was a little bit reasonable and it has support from the world, UN and NATO but waging war on Iraq was wrong and bold move that sparked criticism on the entire planet. Bush senior and Clinton were so wise in dealing with the situation but the cowboy junior is arrogant and agressive with his decision despite of the world's opposition. I agreed with your opinions but being the only superpower, the world is expecting miracles and magics, that's the price to pay of being the supreme.

Anonymous said...

that's very true odette. look what happened to afghanistan. iraq war took heavy price in american economy meanwhile the present iraqi government is enjoying their billions surplus thus leaving all the expenses of war handled by US alone and the sad part is, its the american ordinary citizen's money.

Anonymous said...

Odette quoted: {he said he wont participate in the coming election as he said its but phony and all crap.}

Ray quoted: {US citizen's ballots are most likely tossed into the circular file after they are counted just to have an idea of the total nubmer submitted. I doubt very much if the actual choices on the ballots are ever looked at or taken into consideration.}

If this is the case, then I think America should change it's voting process. It should follow what other countries do, winning the election thru popular votes, count each & every average six-pack joe's vote.

Hi Amna, how are you? It seems you are informed of American foreign policy than Sarah Palin did. you are right, American foreign policy towards other countries should be changed. It cannot act always as a global police, the world is changing, intellectuals from all over the world are rising. Attacking Iraq was from the start wrong. But what to do, it already happened. The next administration should see to it that Iraq crisis should be solved immediately. This does not require another Gun-slinging Jr to the job.

Pakistan is a very important factor to solve Afghanistan problem. By being diplomatic with Pakistan is very important. Increase fundings to build schools, infrastructures & provide jobs to the people in the border between Pakistan & Afghanistan is necessary to solve the conflict in Afghanistan.

Anonymous said...

good morning kurimaw..as far as i know the original plan to topple down sadam was it's own country's civil war initiated by the outsider but something went wrong with the junior and put everything in his own hands. yes, pakistan is an important bridge in afghan war but it seems no longer the case since the ousting of musharaf. all the opponents had bonded in the beginning but when their motivation was achieved they are now in political fractions. the mullahs are the taliban allies and anti democracy.

Anonymous said...

About my last post: I think I was mistaken. I believe the US Army Corp of Engineers told the state the water would break through and it was the state that lied about it. Either way, the people had faulse confidence, thanks to the government, that the water would be held back.

Anonymous said...

ray, the US Army Corp of Engineer did informed the state of its finding but was not given of importance unexpecting such natural calamaties would arise and trigger.

just an addition of what odette posted. afghan fought war for 10 years with russian not german with the help of US. millions were killed and russian was eventually defeated. on the early days, british tried to invade that terrains and caves country but also lost contributed mainly to its geograhical components that only real afghans could survive.

nice exchanging ideas with you guys, we both learned unknown facts from each other especially coming from real americans like rey and edge.

Anonymous said...

people, this is awesome i am enjoying reading your thoughts about the subject. excellent. i presumed the participants are americans, pinoys and a muslim girl, great! you people know what you are talking about.we need also the european opinions, anybody out there?

Anonymous said...

Whoaaaa......good stuff

Anonymous said...

That 10 year Afghan war is also known as Russia's "Viet Nam" war because it was impossible for Russion to win.

However, the US military COULD HAVE won the Viet Nam war had the ground troops gone into the hochimin trail (please excuse my horrible spelling). The US Air Force kept guaranteeing the president that they would wipe out the trail in a matter of a few weeks. A few weeks later...guess what? No difference.

Why? Because much of the Viet Cong army were actually Chinese soldiers. Every time the Air Force blew away a section of the trail (including men and supplies), the VC army just took a detour and went around the areas.

There was almost no way to stop them with bombing.So, basically, had we not pulled out, the US military would've been dwindled down to nothing by the endless supplies from China, including their troops.

I saw an interview where the commander of the VC unit in charge of the trail said he had been asked by one of his officers "what happens if the americans come in and attack us on the ground?" The commanding officer told him very simply "we'll lose the war".

Since the French went into Viet Nam and pulled out before we did, it was insane for us to start a war on their turf when we knew practically nothing about the area or the people. All in the name of stopping communism. Sh*t load of good that did us in Viet Nam and Korea.

Thankfully, in Iraq, the US military has, for the most part, chased out much of the religious radicals that keep taking over villages in Iraq. These nut jobs shut down the whole city and it's businesses. Then they hold the people hostage in their own homes, threatening to put a bullet in the head of anybody who leaves their home, even to get to get food and water. And, every time the US military chase them out of one village, the sick, twisted psychopathic radicals run to another village and start all over again.

I know the US and our alies had blown away a lot of buildings in the air campaign alone. And that, as well as the ground campaign and continuing peace keeping mission, has destoyed many more buildings and killed many more Iraqi civilians.

But, this time the US military and US companies are helping to rebuild much of what we destroyed and not just leaving the carnage behind still smoking.

Hopefully, Iraq will soon have built up enough military and police forces of their own to keep the peace by themselves. Then, we can get the hell out of there and the Iraqi's can go about the business of setting up their government their way.

Anonymous said...

I don't believe the US lose the vietnam war. Politically maybe due to its withdrawal, but militarilly I don't think so. The US casualties in that war did not even reach 60,000. Vietnamese casualties reached a mind-boggling 4 million deaths. How can anybody says, the US lose the war? This statement is just a way for them to avoid haunting memories of anti-geneva convention tactics they used during that war.

Before America engaged in that war, they even offered the French to nuke the vietcongs, in which the French did not accept. When they are already in that war, the last nasty tactic they used was the chemical warfare which includes Agent Orange.

Ironically, this chemical warfare they used in Vietnam was the very issue they accused of Saddam to give America the reason to attack Iraq, the famous killing of Kurds perpetrated by Saddam using chemical warfare. And of course, the issue of WMD.

Now, again it's dejavu. If America will pull out of Iraq, the news will be they lose the war. With in fact they have only at least 4,000 deaths compared to more than 400,000 deaths in the side of the Iraqis.

Anonymous said...

you are absolutely right ray, vietnam and afghanistan were miscalculated..the opponents did not know the nature of people and the place they were fighting that's how they lose. i don't know much about the nature of vietcong but i have lots of infos about afghans.they don't have regards to their own lives, they are willing to die for what they believe for.

my good friend kurimaw, your concept of winning and lossing is right but unfortunately that's not how they play in the field of war, its not measured by the amount of money and number of casualities but who give up and who sustain, withdrawal (surrender )is lossing but either way there's no real winner in war, both side lose.
(miss u friend ..been a long time since we have discussion like this).

Anonymous said...

Actually Kurimaw, the US government doesn't have the choice to claim a loss in Iraq. They promised us that this would not be another Viet Nam. They also promised us they would put the pieces that they broke back together again in Iraq. Yet another promise the US government made to us was to help Iraq set up a stable government, as well as help them build up enough military and police manpower and supplies to keep their country's religious war to a quiet rumble then get out of their ASAP.

Let me tell you, the amount of tension in this country over this war has gotten tighter and tighter ever since 2003 and something's about to snap. At first, the majority of us believed that we were helping take out Sadam and give the Iraqi's their god given right to govern themselves and give them back the land that Sadam took.

But now, even those of us who really are patriotic enough, and humane enough to have supported the US government's good intensions have had our patients worn down to a nub. US citizens accross the entire 50 states are starting to become very bitter about the war.

If you look at just our men and women who have served, or are still serving in Iraq, you'll see a pattern of not just death, but of lives being destroyed beyond repair. There have already been Iraqi veterans who have been so pschologically damaged by the war that they have done things like kill their whole family and do not remember it.

If you think the war protests that go on now are bad, or if you think the war protests that occered durring viet Nam war were out of hand...you ain't seen nothin yet.

The US constitution gives us the right to freedom of speach, which includes protests. Back in the day, the Viet Nam protesters would have the sh*t beat out of them by the dozens by riot police. Not because they were throwing stones or setting things on fire, mind you. But, because they were screaming too loud and the riot police felt it was time for them to go home.

There are many here in america, myself included, who are very worried that the people from the ghetto are going to start riots if things don't start changing and changing soon in the government's ecenomic policies. Especially now that there's a black presidential candidate. They beleive that "a brotha should take care of his own" when he gets into office.

Even if Obama gets elected, I got news for the "brothas and sistas"... it ain't gonna happen!!! As it is, the Iraq war is pushing 10 years, and the US government is "predicting" we'll finally start withdrawing our troops in a year or two. In a few years, if that doesn't happen, the ghetto riots are going to be only one part of the government's real problems.

I have a feeling that if the US military doesn't stop initiating troop surges into Iraq, and start pulling our military out as "schedualed", we are going to see war protests the likes of which the US had never seen back in the 60s and 70s, nor would've ever happened had we stayed in Viet Nam.

I just pray to god I'm wrong.

Anonymous said...

as mentioned by amna that vietnam and afghan wars were miscalculated, iraq war, clear as crystal is a big time miscalculation too.my heart goes to the iraqi citizen and the american people who take the heavy tolls done by their demonic and moron leaders. (excuse my french language).

Anonymous said...

It took many great men to build America and it took only one stupid to bring it down...God Save America!!!!

Anonymous said...

In repsonse to "pissed off":

Our government officials being demonic? Could be but not likely.

Morons??? You have no clue my friend. While you're at it...try adding to that very acurate descriptioin: idiots, dip sh*ts, dumb a**es, retards (no insult to MR and ADD intended), f**ktards, short bus riders, (which, of course includes window lickers, seat chewers), lame brains, knuckle heads, brainless wonders, etc...

Anonymous said...

I made a mistake in my last respose. I said "MR and ADD". ADD is attention deficit dissorder. what I meant was "MR/DD" which stands for Mentally Retarded/Developmentally Dissabled. Sorry for the typo.

Anonymous said...

hi ray, demonic is for iraq and moron is for american, that's what i meant. all those words you mentioned are all in my head too, but i am hesitant to spit it out, thanks for spilling it for me.i'm from your border neighbour and whatever is happening in your country is a chain's reaction affecting our economy. our government is assuring that everything is under control and we won't be affected but its also a big B***s***!!!they are bunch of thieves and liars, nothing much differ between our governments except the war on iraq but we have body bags coming almost everyweek from afghanistan.these fallen soldiers are held heroes and there are no sentiments heard whatsoever of sending our troops to afghanistan. i hope for the best in your country, i'm sorry to say this but its a no win election for you guys. it is really a "GOD SAVE AMERICA!

Anonymous said...

That's right. America is the most admired nation in the world due to its freedom & democracy. Great people since George Washington helped build this very great nation, & its reputation was destroyed only by the selected few.

Anyway, what to do. These things happened already & we cannot do anything about it. All america should do is to find solutions to this mess & it will start by electing the lesser of two evils in the two candidates.

America should start respecting the decisions of the League of Nations. Though Nuclear Non-proliferation should be imposed strictly, especially to the likes of Iran & North Korea. But diplomatic ways should be exhausted to the fullest & wisest before engaging militarilly. IAEA is a respected & specialized UN Body & it has no direct control with any of the UN bodies, its decision should be respected by America next time, and we pray to God next time this will never happen again.

{Hi Amna. me & my family miss you also & miss that old site. God bless.}

Anonymous said...

maccain is good but the thing is he's old and these vultures will still be with him . really hard to choose between the two.

Anonymous said...

Exactally. Obama is just anoter "slick politician" as much as McCain and all the rest. It's hard to say if he's just blowing a bunch of smoke up our collective a**es.

That's what I meant in my earlier blog. The government needs new blood of the people to be run by the people: i.e. real americans.

Anonymous said...

let's have some good laughs for a break guys..here's some excerpt from Katie Couric's interview with vice pres.candidate Sarah Palin:


On Vladimir Putin's head:

Palin informs Couric that the United States' neighbours are foreign countries. Couric keeps a straight face.

on the bailout:

Interaction bad, action good, Solutions are also good things, especially if they are comprehensive and long-term.

Anonymous said...

Ladies and gentlemen, let us put this very motivating topic to a rest. All sides have already been heard and considered. USA is in shambles as well as the whole world. With the help and cooperation of the peoples of the world, we can continue to co-exist peacefully and fight and suppress the demons within ourselves that is plaguing our very existence. Pax Amricana shall prevail, God willing.
I will be closing the Pax Americana comment box shortly. A new interesting post will be out soon for your usual interesting comments.
Thank you very much for the lively discussion.